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		<description><![CDATA[文章目录 相关文章 发信人: bozeman (bozeman), 信区: Physics 标  题: 光学找工感受（只适用新人） 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 26 11:27:31 2010, 美东) 感觉版上不少年轻ddmm是光学行业的，欧07毕业的，随便写点自己的感受吧。。 光学行业可以分成laser engineer/scientist, optical engineer/scientist 其他 laser engineer/scientist （1）应该是有很强laser 研发经验。如果有身份， NASA, Los Alamos，Navy ， nist或者DC 附近national lab， 还是很好进的，而且pay还不错。 博士毕业，一般至少都有7，8 万。就算没有身份，也可能还是有机会的,不过很少。这种career path， 可以进学术 ，也可以到工业界， 不过多半是军工相关的工业界了。 （2）coherent , newport，IPG业内大公司，都会有openning. 但是感觉不会找新人直 接作研究。 大公司更加倾向发展成熟技术。但是偏向engineering position新人还是 有机会的。薪水7-9万不等 (3)靠funding 吃饭的小公司，project难， 不过很有意思。他们更加喜欢公司内部推 荐，因为不能afford [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>发信人: bozeman (bozeman), 信区: Physics<br />
标  题: 光学找工感受（只适用新人）<br />
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 26 11:27:31 2010, 美东)</p></blockquote>
<p>感觉版上不少年轻ddmm是光学行业的，欧07毕业的，随便写点自己的感受吧。。<span id="more-63586"></span></p>
<p>光学行业可以分成laser engineer/scientist, optical engineer/scientist 其他</p>
<p>laser engineer/scientist<br />
（1）应该是有很强laser 研发经验。如果有身份， NASA, Los Alamos，Navy ， nist或者DC 附近national lab， 还是很好进的，而且pay还不错。 博士毕业，一般至少都有7，8<br />
万。就算没有身份，也可能还是有机会的,不过很少。这种career path， 可以进学术<br />
，也可以到工业界， 不过多半是军工相关的工业界了。<br />
（2）coherent , newport，IPG业内大公司，都会有openning. 但是感觉不会找新人直<br />
接作研究。 大公司更加倾向发展成熟技术。但是偏向engineering position新人还是<br />
有机会的。薪水7-9万不等<br />
(3)靠funding 吃饭的小公司，project难， 不过很有意思。他们更加喜欢公司内部推<br />
荐，因为不能afford hiring a wrong person.对找人要求也相对高。</p>
<p>optical engineer/scientist<br />
（1）zemax, code V要过硬，机会比laser engineer 多，我知道的同行有， 设计车灯<br />
， LED, 游戏设备。<br />
(2）也听说有人到药厂之类的去做 spectrum 相关职务的，或者一些光学检测。<br />
(3)bio instrudy很多都有optical engineer，因为laser 在这个行业用得很广泛，例<br />
如：做血液检查，激光去毛，去斑。 这些都是我亲身接触过的。</p>
<p>其他：如sales, marketing, manufacture engineer<br />
公司会找有光学背景的新生做这些的， 机会有。可以定期看看thorlabs, edmund,<br />
civlaser的广告。</p>
<p>最后建议，做人新人， 除了你研究的field, 尽量在以下方向准备：</p>
<p>（1) zemax or code V ，labview，matlab or 类似 ， basic mechanical design<br />
tool<br />
(2) hands on laser experience,and laser theory<br />
（3）实际分析解决问题的能力<br />
(4) 熟悉实验室常用设备, OSA, scope, RF spectrum analyzer,function generator<br />
,简单电路<br />
(5) strong presenatation ability<br />
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<p><span style="color: #008080;"><strong>同学在校内转发的一片日志，作者是华盛顿大学的一名物理学教授Jonathan Katz（<a href="http://wuphys.wustl.edu/~katz/scientist.html" target="_blank">原文链接</a>）。看时间应该是99年的老文了但对现在国内的很多有志于米国offer的理科生还是很有参考价值的。虽不认同作者的建议但还是得说要三思啊。。。</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Don&#8217;t Become a Scientist!<br />
Jonathan I. Katz<br />
Professor of Physics<br />
Washington University, St. Louis, Mo.<br />
[my last name]@wuphys.wustl.edu</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008080;">Are you thinking of becoming a scientist? Do you want to uncover the mysteries of nature, perform experiments or carry out calculations to learn how the world works? Forget it!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Science is fun and exciting. The thrill of discovery is unique. If you are smart, ambitious and hard working you should major in science as an undergraduate. But that is as far as you should take it. After graduation, you will have to deal with the real world. That means that you should not even consider going to graduate school in science. Do something else instead: medical school, law school, computers or engineering, or something else which appeals to you.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Why am I (a tenured professor of physics) trying to discourage you from following a career path which was successful for me? Because times have changed (I received my Ph.D. in 1973, and tenure in 1976). American science no longer offers a reasonable career path. If you go to graduate school in science it is in the expectation of spending your working life doing scientific research, using your ingenuity and curiosity to solve important and interesting problems. You will almost certainly be disappointed, probably when it is too late to choose another career.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">American universities train roughly twice as many Ph.D.s as there are jobs for them. When something, or someone, is a glut on the market, the price drops. In the case of Ph.D. scientists, the reduction in price takes the form of many years spent in “holding pattern” postdoctoral jobs. Permanent jobs don&#8217;t pay much less than they used to, but instead of obtaining a real job two years after the Ph.D. (as was typical 25 years ago) most young scientists spend five, ten, or more years as postdocs. They have no prospect of permanent employment and often must obtain a new postdoctoral position and move every two years. For many more details consult the Young Scientists&#8217; Network or read the account in the May, 2001 issue of the Washington Monthly.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">As examples, consider two of the leading candidates for a recent Assistant Professorship in my department. One was 37, ten years out of graduate school (he didn&#8217;t get the job). The leading candidate, whom everyone thinks is brilliant, was 35, seven years out of graduate school. Only then was he offered his first permanent job (that&#8217;s not tenure, just the possibility of it six years later, and a step off the treadmill of looking for a new job every two years). The latest example is a 39 year old candidate for another Assistant Professorship; he has published 35 papers. In contrast, a doctor typically enters private practice at 29, a lawyer at 25 and makes partner at 31, and a computer scientist with a Ph.D. has a very good job at 27 (computer science and engineering are the few fields in which industrial demand makes it sensible to get a Ph.D.). Anyone with the intelligence, ambition and willingness to work hard to succeed in science can also succeed in any of these other professions.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Typical postdoctoral salaries begin at $27,000 annually in the biological sciences and about $35,000 in the physical sciences (graduate student stipends are less than half these figures). Can you support a family on that income? It suffices for a young couple in a small apartment, though I know of one physicist whose wife left him because she was tired of repeatedly moving with little prospect of settling down. When you are in your thirties you will need more: a house in a good school district and all the other necessities of ordinary middle class life. Science is a profession, not a religious vocation, and does not justify an oath of poverty or celibacy.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Of course, you don&#8217;t go into science to get rich. So you choose not to go to medical or law school, even though a doctor or lawyer typically earns two to three times as much as a scientist (one lucky enough to have a good senior-level job). I made that choice too. I became a scientist in order to have the freedom to work on problems which interest me. But you probably won&#8217;t get that freedom. As a postdoc you will work on someone else&#8217;s ideas, and may be treated as a technician rather than as an independent collaborator. Eventually, you will probably be squeezed out of science entirely. You can get a fine job as a computer programmer, but why not do this at 22, rather than putting up with a decade of misery in the scientific job market first? The longer you spend in science the harder you will find it to leave, and the less attractive you will be to prospective employers in other fields.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Perhaps you are so talented that you can beat the postdoc trap; some university (there are hardly any industrial jobs in the physical sciences) will be so impressed with you that you will be hired into a tenure track position two years out of graduate school. Maybe. But the general cheapening of scientific labor means that even the most talented stay on the postdoctoral treadmill for a very long time; consider the job candidates described above. And many who appear to be very talented, with grades and recommendations to match, later find that the competition of research is more difficult, or at least different, and that they must struggle with the rest.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">Suppose you do eventually obtain a permanent job, perhaps a tenured professorship. The struggle for a job is now replaced by a struggle for grant support, and again there is a glut of scientists. Now you spend your time writing proposals rather than doing research. Worse, because your proposals are judged by your competitors you cannot follow your curiosity, but must spend your effort and talents on anticipating and deflecting criticism rather than on solving the important scientific problems. They&#8217;re not the same thing: you cannot put your past successes in a proposal, because they are finished work, and your new ideas, however original and clever, are still unproven. It is proverbial that original ideas are the kiss of death for a proposal; because they have not yet been proved to work (after all, that is what you are proposing to do) they can be, and will be, rated poorly. Having achieved the promised land, you find that it is not what you wanted after all.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">What can be done? The first thing for any young person (which means anyone who does not have a permanent job in science) to do is to pursue another career. This will spare you the misery of disappointed expectations.<span style="color: #ff9900;"> Young Americans have generally woken up to the bad prospects and absence of a reasonable middle class career path in science and are deserting it. If you haven&#8217;t yet, then join them. Leave graduate school to people from India and China, for whom the prospects at home are even worse. I have known more people whose lives have been ruined by getting a Ph.D. in physics than by drugs.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">If you are in a position of leadership in science then you should try to persuade the funding agencies to train fewer Ph.D.s. The glut of scientists is entirely the consequence of funding policies (almost all graduate education is paid for by federal grants). The funding agencies are bemoaning the scarcity of young people interested in science when they themselves caused this scarcity by destroying science as a career. They could reverse this situation by matching the number trained to the demand, but they refuse to do so, or even to discuss the problem seriously (for many years the NSF propagated a dishonest prediction of a coming shortage of scientists, and most funding agencies still act as if this were true). The result is that the best young people, who should go into science, sensibly refuse to do so, and the graduate schools are filled with weak American students and with foreigners lured by the American student visa.<br />
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Jonathan Katz<br />
Thu May 13 12:39:11 CDT 1999</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[文章目录 相关文章 每当我看到这一张张精致的面庞都不禁血脉喷张浮想联翩。OMG！ 。。。 索尔维国际物理学化学研究会（（荷兰語）Institut International de Physique Solvay）是由比利时企业家欧内斯特·索尔维于1912年创办，位于布鲁塞尔；此前一年他通过邀请方式举办了第一届国际物理学会议，即第一次索尔维会议（（荷兰語）Conseils Solvay）。在此次成功之后，研究会继续负责邀请世界著名的物理学家和化学家对前沿问题进行讨论的会议。索尔维会议致力于研究物理学和化学中突出的前沿问题，每三年举办一次， 1927年10月召开的第五次索尔维会议主题为“电子和光子”，世界上最主要的物理学家聚在一起讨论重新阐明的量子理论。会议上最出众的角色是爱因斯坦和尼尔斯·玻尔。前者以“上帝不会掷骰子”的观点反对海森堡的不確定性原理，而玻尔反驳道，“爱因斯坦，不要告诉上帝怎么做”——这一争论被称为玻尔-爱因斯坦论战。 ——wikipedia 请注意，参加这次会议的二十九人中有十七人获得或后来获得诺贝尔奖。大家找找看，看你认识几个~ 相关文章 Don&#8217;t Become a Scientist!( 10 ) [转帖]谈谈光学就业( 0 ) Copyright © 2008 This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #008080;">每当我看到这一张张精致的面庞都不禁血脉喷张浮想联翩。OMG！</span></p>
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<blockquote><p>索尔维国际物理学化学研究会（（荷兰語）Institut International de Physique Solvay）是由比利时企业家欧内斯特·索尔维于1912年创办，位于布鲁塞尔；此前一年他通过邀请方式举办了第一届国际物理学会议，即第一次索尔维会议（（荷兰語）Conseils Solvay）。在此次成功之后，研究会继续负责邀请世界著名的物理学家和化学家对前沿问题进行讨论的会议。索尔维会议致力于研究物理学和化学中突出的前沿问题，每三年举办一次，</p>
<p>1927年10月召开的第五次索尔维会议主题为“电子和光子”，世界上最主要的物理学家聚在一起讨论重新阐明的量子理论。会议上最出众的角色是爱因斯坦和尼尔斯·玻尔。前者以“上帝不会掷骰子”的观点反对海森堡的不確定性原理，而玻尔反驳道，“爱因斯坦，不要告诉上帝怎么做”——这一争论被称为玻尔-爱因斯坦论战。</p>
<p>——wikipedia</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color: #008080;">请注意，参加这次会议的二十九人中有十七人获得或后来获得诺贝尔奖。大家找找看，看你认识几个~</span></p>
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